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				<title>Re: Non academic library metadata</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 00:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>neilgodfrey</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>112820</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>I could add that the sheer size of some of the national and public library systems means it is a full time task for, say, a place like Singapore's library network, to be working on establishing multiple data providers for multiple content and metadata management systems along with their own service provider to take care of all seamlessly. So long as basic standards are deployed throughout then theoretically the time should come when the potentials can be fulfilled.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-46367">Comments and discussion / General discussion</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-142035/non-academic-library-metadata">Non academic library metadata</a>
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				<title>Re: Non academic library metadata</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 05:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Hi Joan,</p> <p>I recall that meeting. Am having doubts that the time is right for national/public libraries to be actively involved with MACAR. Pity. Potential is huge for sharing info. But I've come to think that the unique dynamics in the research/academic/ed sectors are what made MACAR possible in the first place. Academics move around and it is vital for researchers to exchange data and publications etc etc. Sharing of efforts and coop projects would seem be a natural outgrowth of that environment. Nothing like that among national libraries, which are focused more on managing their own resources and serving their immediate constituencies. Their sheer size, too, means they have more legacy issues and systems to negotiate than the academic libraries with which I worked.</p> <p>I suspect national libraries will only be in a position to embark on the sorts of sharing and coop found among the scholarly/research community when they become even more established in their various digital projects and reach till they reach a point where they can look around at others and say, "hey, look what we've got —- anyone want to share? you have similar? can we exchange?" Many snazzy things are being done, but there is still a long way to go, it seems, before they will reach that point.</p> <p>Neil</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-46367">Comments and discussion / General discussion</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-142035/non-academic-library-metadata">Non academic library metadata</a>
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				<title>Re: Non academic library metadata</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 02:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Joan Gray</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>113374</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Hi<br /> MACAR at its August 2008 meeting started a discussion about the future membership of MACAR. Members agreed that it would be a good thing to review MACARs membership. Although there was one member from the public sector and one member from the NLA there was discussion about whether MACAR should broaden its scope to include members from New Zealand and even South East Asia. External relationships with the DCMI Scholarly Communications Group and membership of IT-19 were also discussed. It would be<br /> good for MACAR under the new CAIRSS/CAUL service to continue this discussion and take some of these ideas forward.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-46367">Comments and discussion / General discussion</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-142035/non-academic-library-metadata">Non academic library metadata</a>
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				<title>A practical suggestion for the application of a Type vocabulary</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>neilgodfrey</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>112820</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>MACAR has produced a recommendation for a "resource types" controlled vocabulary to be used in academic and research repositories.</p> <p>It might be useful for MACAR also to make it clear to those interested in using this list that using it does not preclude them from using other "type" vocabularies as well.</p> <p>Indeed, DCMI recommends that multiple "type" vocabularies be used when a resource consists of multiple mixed types then multiple "type" terms be used. In particular, for the sake of interoperability, these multiple types should include a standard DCMI Type.</p> <p>The <a href="http://www.example.com">DC Usage Guide</a> says of the DCMI Type term:</p> <blockquote> <p><strong>4.4. Type</strong></p> <p>Label: Resource Type</p> <p>Element Description: The nature or genre of the content of the resource. Type includes terms describing general categories, functions, genres, or aggregation levels for content. Recommended best practice is to select a value from a controlled vocabulary (for example, the DCMIType vocabulary ). To describe the physical or digital manifestation of the resource, use the FORMAT element.</p> <p>Guidelines for content creation:</p> <p>If the resource is composed of multiple mixed types then multiple or repeated Type elements should be used to describe the main components.</p> <p>Because different communities or domains are expected to use a variety of type vocabularies, best practice to ensure interoperability is to include at least one general type term from the DCMIType vocabulary in addition to the domain specific type term(s), in separate Type element iterations.</p> <p>Examples:</p> <p>Type="Image"<br /> Type="Sound"<br /> Type="Text"<br /> Type="simulation"</p> <p>Note: The first three values are taken from the DCMI Type Vocabulary, and follow the capitalization conventions for that vocabulary. The last value is a term from an unspecified source.</p> <p>The item described is an Electronic art exhibition catalog:</p> <p>Type="Image"<br /> Type="Text"<br /> Type="Exhibition catalog"</p> <p>Note: The first two values are taken from the DCMI Type Vocabulary, and follow the capitalization conventions for that vocabulary. The last value is a term from an unspecified source.</p> <p>The item described is a Multimedia educational program with interactive assignments:</p> <p>Type="Image"<br /> Type="Text"<br /> Type="Software"<br /> Type="InteractiveResource"</p> <p>Note: All values in this example are taken from the DCMI Type Vocabulary, and follow the capitalization conventions for that vocabulary.</p> </blockquote> <p>UK's Scholarly Works Application Profile takes care of this OAI interoperability requirement by declaring all of its scholarly text vocabulary terms to be subtypes of the DCMI Type, 'Text'.</p> <p>So when one uses the MACAR type "cartographic material", it is also a good idea (even "best practice") to additionally use the DCMI Type term "image" or "still image". Similarly the MACAR type "data holding" should be accompanied by the DCMI type "dataset".</p> <p>The reason for including the DCMI vocabulary alongside the MACAR one is to maximize interoperability. Wherever the OAI protocol is found, there the "simple" DC terms will be understood and processed.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-46367">Comments and discussion / General discussion</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-142425/a-practical-suggestion-for-the-application-of-a-type-vocabulary">A practical suggestion for the application of a Type vocabulary</a>
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				<title>Non academic library metadata</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 03:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Since moving to the National and Public library scene the extent to which MACAR's focus has been on the sorts of resources housed in academic repositories has become very apparent.</p> <p>MACAR included non-academic library representatives but my memory tells me they were not as active as those from the academic scene.</p> <p>Now I have joined the National Library Board of Singapore (NLB) and am making decisions affecting metadata across the entirety of Singapore's national and public libraries I have had to face up to just how limited in focus MACAR's past work has been. It is a pity the membership was not more evenly balanced between academic and public/state libraries. On the other hand, maybe progress is best happening when it is made a small step at a time.</p> <p>At the NLB a preliminary list of resource types for the national and public library sectors has been prepared. It contains over 50 resource type terms. Some of those will almost certainly be merged, but the list will be a lot longer than the current MACAR list.</p> <p>With some of the MACAR members now working with ANDS, and MACAR coming under the umbrella of CAUL, one might expect MACAR to be entrenched further with research and academic library requirements.</p> <p>I wonder if there are any realistic chances of national libraries cooperating with each other and even with academic libraries, and if there are real benefits to be gained by their doing so. Since moving into the national and public library sector I think there are real potentials for users if it could happen. To expose and share the specialist heritage and wider cultural collections that such libraries house, especially alongside libraries dedicated to research and education, can only be A Good Thing.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-46367">Comments and discussion / General discussion</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-142035/non-academic-library-metadata">Non academic library metadata</a>
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				<title>Exhibition</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 05:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Fiona Burton</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>142916</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Hi, I noticed from your discussion that you are saying that exhibitions are collections of separate resource types. I accept that.</p> <p>However we need a resource type that will cover the record for the actual collection which is a research output collected by our Research Management system.<br /> The research outputs are:</p> <ol> <li>Individual exhibition of original art; substantial collection of original works by an individual artist exhibited for the first time in a recognised gallery or museum.</li> <li>Representation of original art: collection of at least three original works by an individual artist exhibited for the first time in a recognised gallery or museum.</li> <li>Curatorship of major exhibition not featuring creative work by the curator, or production (including recording), selection, remastering supervision or booklet authoring of CD recordings.</li> </ol> <p>The first 2 could be covered by 1 resource type, but I need a separate one for the 3rd output.</p> <p>I can give more information if you require. Fiona</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-38021">Comments and discussion / Comments</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-111617/minutes05-11-2008">Minutes05 11 2008</a>
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				<title>Encyclopedia /dictionary entry</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 05:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Hi, I noticed from the minutes that a resource type for this type is being proposed. Whilst all the documentation is being written, could somebody tell me what actual wording is being proposed? We have some records waiting for publishing. Fiona</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-38021">Comments and discussion / Comments</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-111617/minutes05-11-2008">Minutes05 11 2008</a>
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				<title>Re: resource type for field notes</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>This is an interesting one, Julie, and might fit into the idea of dataset. Then again, maybe not! ANDS would certainly be interested in how to manage this kind of material. When we started, we focused on research publications. Field notes don't fit into that category at all.</p> <p>I will bring this up with ANDS.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-38021">Comments and discussion / Comments</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-66295/resource-type">Resource Type</a>
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				<title>resource type for field notes</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 01:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Hi,</p> <p>Would someone like to comment on the possibility of establishing a new resource type, "field notes"? At Monash we are processing 4 sets of field notes and feel that none of the existing MACAR resource types fit. These notes are unpublished and informal.</p> <p>I did a search in a number of repositories and compiled the following list of resource types used (MACAR resource types are asterisked). I'm wondering how complete the list is, and would people like to add to it, any resource types they are using or would like to use?</p> <p>book chapter*<br /> book*<br /> cartographic material*<br /> conference abstract<br /> conference item*<br /> conference paper*<br /> conference poster<br /> dataholding*<br /> dataset*<br /> discussion paper<br /> draft<br /> image<br /> interactive resource*<br /> journal article*<br /> learning object<br /> lecture<br /> literary and artistic work<br /> manual<br /> moving image*<br /> multimedia*<br /> musical score*<br /> newspaper article<br /> non text media<br /> other<br /> patent*<br /> preprint/postprint &amp; refereed/nonrefereed report*<br /> research paper/report<br /> review*<br /> rich media<br /> scholarly text*<br /> seminar lecture<br /> small-sized dataset accompanying paper/article/report<br /> software*<br /> sound*<br /> still image*<br /> survey<br /> technical report<br /> text<br /> thesis (PhD)<br /> thesis*<br /> website*<br /> working paper*</p> <p>Thanks</p> <p>Julie</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-38021">Comments and discussion / Comments</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-66295/resource-type">Resource Type</a>
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				<title>Revised definition</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 01:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Simon McMillan</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>213223</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Following from discussion at the MACAR teleconference on 12/11/08 I would like to suggest the following amended definition (changes in <strong>bold</strong>). MACAR was reluctant to accept my suggestion that a separate "webpage" resource type might be useful, but asked to suggest an amendment to the definition of the "website" resource type.</p> <p>Definition: A collection of connected files or webpages<strong>, or a single webpage,</strong> along with integrally linked files such as graphics, sound and multimedia files, that can be accessed via a domain or subdomain on the internet.</p> <p><strong>Notes: If a website (and especially a webpage) possesses the characteristics of another resource type, prefer that resource type. For example, journal article, review, etc.</strong></p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-38021">Comments and discussion / Comments</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-93989/website">Website</a>
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				<title>Re: How versatile is this resource type?</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 01:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>In MACAR resource type terms I think "webpage" and "website" have a similar heirarchical relationship to that of "book chapter" and "book". In terms of metadata capture there are similar requirements in showing that relationship.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-38021">Comments and discussion / Comments</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-93989/website">Website</a>
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				<title>Re: How versatile is this resource type?</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>and wait to see what RDA says in the meantime too — bearing in mind that that also may well undergo revisions.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-38021">Comments and discussion / Comments</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-93989/website">Website</a>
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				<title>Re: How versatile is this resource type?</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>This issue is part of a broader discussion that is still ongoing in the Dublin Core and SWAP communities. And it will become increasingly significant with Object Reuse and Exchange (ORE). The actual thing that ties all the different bits and pieces together from various other sites and databases may be nothing more than an html or xml encoding page. But that actual thing or encoding page is nothing but a series of coded commands to collect stuff from everywhere else and to display it all in a certain way. That encoding page is the closest thing to the actual resource. I think of it as the "central nervous system" of the bigger thing. The bigger thing, that is, the display that users see and use, is not what is harvested, nor even possibly actually identified. And it does not even really exist — except when that central nervous system is activated. What is stored and manipulated and edited and used in a database will not be, then, what is actually seen by users.</p> <p>So we are looking at the concepts of technical FRBR manifestations that are not manifest, of resources that are not real, of resource entities that may not really exist — except as an xml datastream linking to a host of other uri's and a series of commands for certain software to display it in certain configurations — and even those display configurations may well be variable, never constant. For example, is an xml datastream might be viewable as pdf or html or other, and the user has the option of deciding this without ever actually seeing the "original document", which is the xml datastream.</p> <p>The answer is not with us yet. We don't know what it will finally be. It may well be that RDF and ORE — and the Semantic Web — will force us into new ways of conceptualizing "resources" and "resource types".</p> <p>In the meantime, I would think the safest option would be to store and describe etc webpages the way LOC's Minerva does (www.loc.gov/minerva/). And then be prepared to mark such collections with a sign, "Watch this space!"</p> <p>Neil Godfrey</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-38021">Comments and discussion / Comments</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-93989/website">Website</a>
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				<title>How versatile is this resource type?</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 00:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Simon McMillan</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>213223</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>I'm confronted with some examples of "online or web publications" that, in a printed environment, wouldn't be classifiable under any of the main MACAR resource types. It's the WWW that facilitates their existence, and their "format" is determined, usually, by the parent site to which they belong. In other words, these single pages, or even single entries on a page or site, have characteristics which are determined by their environment and don't conform to a traditional set of descriptive rules. Some of them might be classed under the DEST N category (Entry), but others are closer to journal articles or reviews, though the site where they're located isn't a journal - it's just a site.</p> <p>I could use the MACAR website resource type, but I don't think its terminology or definition captures the fact that the objects I'm describing are entries or parts of something bigger.</p> <p>Has anyone else encountered such material, and how have they dealt with it?</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-38021">Comments and discussion / Comments</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-93989/website">Website</a>
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				<title>Re: Forum categories: properties</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>rock says…</p> <hr /> <p>welcome.</p> <p><a href="http://foreclosures.gov-auctions.org" >Foreclosed Homes</a></p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-38277">Hidden / Comment vs discussion</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-54304/forum-categories:properties">Forum categories: properties</a>
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				<title>Re: Images and their metadata</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 01:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Yes, the two resource types you should be using are still image, and moving image. They are singular, do not include any punctuation, and use lower case. Case is not an issue in search and retrieval (maybe in display), but any kind of punctuation is asking for trouble, leading to many variations:</p> <ul> <li>image (still)</li> <li>image - still</li> <li>image:still</li> <li>image : still</li> <li>image/still</li> <li>still images</li> <li>images (still)</li> <li>images - still</li> <li>images:still</li> <li>images : still</li> </ul> <p>The Vocabulary definitions for the two types are:</p> <p><strong>still image</strong> – A static visual representation.<br /> Source of term: DCMI, ADS<br /> Source of definition: DCMI<br /> Note: Examples include photographs, paintings. drawings etc. Assign the type text to images of textual materials.</p> <p><strong>moving image</strong> - A series of visual representations imparting an impression of motion when shown in succession.<br /> Source of term: DCMI<br /> Source of definition: DCMI<br /> Note: Examples include animations, movies, television programs, videos, zoetropes, or visual output from a simulation.</p> <p>These two types do cover most images, with the exception that if it is an image of a map then you should use <strong>cartographic material</strong>. If it is an image of a musical score then you should use <strong>musical score</strong>.</p> <p>The question about text is answered in the note for still image. If it is a scanned image of text, then use text. If it is an image included as part of an object with text and images, it will depend on the predominating type and whether you are treating it as one compound object. The notes on multimedia might help here:</p> <p><strong>multimedia</strong> - a complex resource expressed through multiple forms eg text, audio, and/or visual form.<br /> Note: If a single media type predominates or is a substantial part of the resource use the single media type eg text, sound, moving or still image. If more than one type applies use multimedia.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-46367">Comments and discussion / General discussion</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-82645/images-and-their-metadata">Images and their metadata</a>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Vicki Picasso asks a few interesting questions about metadata for images, and asks MACAR's recommendations.</p> <p>For Images - I should use 2 different resource types:</p> <ul> <li>still image</li> <li>moving image</li> </ul> <p>Expressed as above, and not</p> <ul> <li>image (still)</li> <li>image (moving)</li> </ul> <p>Use Still Images for : photographs, paintings, drawings, digital images (art), posters, postcards, etc<br /> Use Moving Image for : movies, videos, TV program, animations, etc</p> <p>Can you confirm that the these 2 resource types are the total number of types for images, i.e. that these 2 types should cover most things encountered at the moment?</p> <p>And lastly, if I have images that are individual or mulitple pages from a manuscript (scanned/photographed) which resource type would you recommend? Does 'Still image' cover textual representation?</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-46367">Comments and discussion / General discussion</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-82645/images-and-their-metadata">Images and their metadata</a>
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				<title>Re: This list is way too short</title>
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						 <p>Thanks for your input, Steve. It is great to get feedback and discussion on these matters.</p> <p>Any list is going to have its shortcomings. We are all too well aware of the issues in confusing type and format and genre and content and carrier. From our work though, and from what the NLA tells us about their harvesting, we see that inconsistency in terminology for resource types is rampant, and that this leads to problems in retrieving and presenting clustered results For harvesting/aggregation to really work well the solutions are: a) for the harvester to develop a multiplicity of scripts to map from all the variations and permutations out there to something consistent (which they are understandably reluctant to do), or b) for some consistency to be applied among the repositories.</p> <p>We have a chance at this stage in repository development to have a stab at consistency. If there are types missing then we can add them, but we are trying to achieve consistency in terminology for the types that we have.</p> <p>Of course there are some repositories which already contain data that has non-MACAR resource types. Should they be changed? In VITAL repositories those values could be changed using the <a href="http://code.google.com/p/fabulous/">FABULOUS</a>. Or the data could be left as is, and perhaps some mapping tools developed.</p> <p>Is there a need? We think so. Are there gaps? We know so. Should we keep going? We think so, and will take all suggestions very gratefully.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-38021">Comments and discussion / Comments</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-66295/resource-type">Resource Type</a>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Survey results also show that a review and update of the vocabulary is needed. A number of questions are timely Do the principles/objectives on which the list is based need revising ? The ERA initiative (replacing the RQF) may have new requirements for research publication data? Review of terms, definitions, level of granularity, implementation-specific issues, interoperability, best practice - lots to discuss. MACAR to meet soon</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-38021">Comments and discussion / Comments</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-66295/resource-type">Resource Type</a>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>I think any list of resource types for research output is going to be a compromise.</p> <p>It should include terms that are sufficiently granular and yet not be so long that it is unwieldy and difficult to apply.<br /> It should include terms for content (e.g. "moving image") and also terms for different types of scholarly text (e.g. "conference paper") that are commonly used to describe research output.<br /> It should be interoperable with other metadata schema, e.g. DCMI.<br /> It should be flat list and not hierarchical as the terms are easier to record in the metadata record.</p> <p>The MACAR group took a practical approach rather than a purely logical one. We felt that other levels in a hierarchy and other concepts (e.g. genre) can be recorded in the metadata.</p> <p>It's interesting to note that institutions responding to the survey on use of the MACAR list have said that they intend to apply it in their repositories.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-38021">Comments and discussion / Comments</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-66295/resource-type">Resource Type</a>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 02:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Hmmm. Not happy with this list. It suffers from the same problems as all such lists, in that the objective seems unclear — what is the purpose of "type"? — and also confuses different meanings of "type".</p> <p>If the purpose of "type" is accurate description of an item, then some of these types are too broad to be useful. Although I will allow that there is a hierarchy of possible types, and a broad term is sometimes the best we can do. You don't have any of these, but I think a reasonable subset of any hierarchy, by way of example, should be Creative work -&gt; Novel/Short story/Musical composition/Musical performance/etc. We have all of these and more in our repository. If you want accuracy in the metadata, then you need types which include that level of detail.</p> <p>Secondly, you are confusing type with format to some extent. "Sound", "Still image" and "moving image" are all formats, in a broad sense. (And again, there is a clear hierarchy in format from, e.g. "image" to "jpeg" etc.) Sound is particularly useless. Is it a voice recording? Music? Bird song? A recording of a musical performance would be better to have a type of "musical performance" rather than sound, since the performance is the thing described, and the recording format somewhat incidental.</p> <p>Given that we have a music school here, we need a number of types relating to music: composition, score, performance, … Other repositories are going to have different needs, depending on their collections. So I think attempting a definitive list of types is possibly doomed, or at least destined to be a much longer list than yours.</p> <p>What would be useful. perhaps, is for repository systems to allow for multiple types to be added to an item, reflecting a hierarchy and a variety of needs.</p> <p>Apologies for the length here. Hope it's useful.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-38021">Comments and discussion / Comments</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-66295/resource-type">Resource Type</a>
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						 <p>We have a record for a poem and would like a resource type for this type of material. This record has a DEST category of J1. Last year when we looked at resource types we thought we might something along the lines of:</p> <ul> <li>J1 and J2 Creative work</li> <li>J3 and J4 Exhibition</li> <li>J5 Exhibition Curatorship</li> </ul> <p>I don't think multimedia would meet our needs for Exhibitions.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-38021">Comments and discussion / Comments</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-66295/resource-type">Resource Type</a>
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				<title>Re: Some of the conversation between Simon Porter and Tom Ruthven</title>
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						 <p>We are capturing the DEST code from our research system, or if we were entering records into our repository manually, we would enter the code into our repository. We would not use a rule such as "IF resource type=journal article and journal name belongs to a pre approved list THEN DEST category = Blah". I just don't see the sense of having the code 'A1" and type 'book' in the same field, and in particularly a public field. I really feel the 'A1' should be stored in a separate field that can then be retreived on and reported on where necessary. I was very happy with the idea of a 592 field used to describe the DEST category.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-38021">Comments and discussion / Comments</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-56967/herdc-the-metadata-issues">Herdc The Metadata Issues</a>
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						 <p>Just by way of background, here is some of the relevant conversation, so you all know what the issues are</p> <p><strong>Simon Porter said:</strong></p> <p>…. the DEST category code could be derived from other metadata against the record at reporting time. This would be a nontrivial exercise, but it would be an alternative to essentially translating information that is already in the record at data entry time.</p> <p>One of the reasons that deriving DEST category codes might be a good idea if you were considering using a repository for HERDC reporting is that in most publication reporting systems, the attribution of DEST categories to publications is highly controlled and audited. One of the reasons for this is that these DEST codes have an impact on the amount of funding that is returned to a University. The assignation of DEST category codes is often entered by administrators, and then signed off on by heads of department. (This at least is the University of Melbourne experience). If this sort of workflow is difficult to implement in a repository, then deriving the DEST category codes from publication metadata using established business rules might be a more appropriate method of enforcing rigour around the reporting of DEST category codes.</p> <p><strong>Tom Ruthven replied:</strong></p> <p>UNSW uses a similar assignation of DEST codes as University of Melbourne (entered by administrators, and then signed off on by heads of department). However, as the codes are auditable information I’d prefer to store the code used for the DEST return rather than re-calculate it for an auditor. Initially the code could be calculated but I would prefer it to be stored as the code.</p> <p><strong>Angela Lang</strong> asked how the calculation might be done.</p> <p><strong>Katie Blake answered</strong> that it might be something along the lines of IF resource type=journal article AND type=peer-reviewed THEN DEST Category = A1</p> <p><strong>Simon Porter responded that</strong></p> <p>For journals it would probably end up being:</p> <p>IF resource type=journal article and journal name belongs to a pre approved list THEN DEST category = Blah</p> <p>The reason there might need to be a pre approved list is that in general the university is responsible for coordinating what it considers to be a peer reviewed journal. Having a pre approved list is another way of putting a control process around the process of deciding what is considered as peer reviewed for the purposes of DEST reporting. Up until 2006, DEST maintained a pre approved list…</p> <p>I think the rules would get pretty tricky pretty quickly, but I raised it mostly to make the point that recording the code is probably the easy bit. It’s enforcing all the business processes around the recording of the codes that might make the use of a repository as a sole HERDC reporting device very challenging.</p> <p>Tom raised auditing, which is a good point. After a head of department has signed off on the records, those records cannot be changed without an audit trail that results in a hod re approval step. I’m not sure how this would be managed purely in a repository environment. Happy to be told otherwise.</p> <p><strong>Tom Ruthven then came back with</strong></p> <p>Although this is not directly related to MACAR’s work I am not sure everything can be calculated using standard descriptive metadata.</p> <p>For example, a B1 criteria (for book chapters) includes “must have been published by a commercial publisher”, where “For the purposes of these specifications, a commercial publisher is an entity for which the core business is producing books and distributing them for sale. If publishing is not the core business of an organisation but there is a distinct organisational entity devoted to commercial publication and its publications are not completely paid for or subsidised by the parent organisation or a third party, the publisher is acceptable as a commercial publisher.” Only the publisher name is generally recorded not whether it is a “commercial publisher”, e.g. Tom Ruthven Vainglorious Publishing Company does not tell me if it is a commercial publisher J</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-38021">Comments and discussion / Comments</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-56967/herdc-the-metadata-issues">Herdc The Metadata Issues</a>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 04:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Good questions Fiona. The MACAR recommendation is to use the type property and values from a controlled vocabulary. This is based on current international standards. Yes – type and code can be in dc:type or marc 655 field and if more than one type and value/code to be used from multiple vocabularies then repeatable fields can be used if allowed by the repository software. Don’t know why the 592 field was recommended or used.<br /> A DEST category code is a value identifying the genre of a resource, just more granular than the values used from the resource type vocabulary. I agree these codes are not very useful other than for DEST reporting. If you wouldn’t like this data to be displayed to users you could consider either creating a mapping/translation from existing values in the resource type vocabulary to the DEST category codes or as Simon suggested deriving/calculating these codes from the publication metadata for reporting purposes. (please see the minutes) Eventually it is up to the repository how this is implemented.<br /> Hope this helps</p> <p>Joan</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-38021">Comments and discussion / Comments</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-56967/herdc-the-metadata-issues">Herdc The Metadata Issues</a>
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						 <p>In the latest Teleconference minutes, there is the following discussion:</p> <p>4.1.DEST category code</p> <p>It was agreed that this code could be recorded and stored in a resource type or genre property and values could be assigned from a DEST category code vocabulary. Category code definitions should also be provided eg A1 – Book ; C1 – Journal article B1 - Book chapter etc</p> <p>• MACAR recommendation: Use type/genre property/field. Best practice is to use a controlled vocabulary.<br /> • MARC : 655 field – Index Term-Genre/Form subfield a and subfield 2<br /> • Dublin Core: dcterms:type or dc:type in simple DC<br /> • MACAR : macar:type</p> <p>Are you actually meaning we need to include the code and type in the 655 field, e.g. $aA1 - Book?<br /> We are coding the code into "A1" into 592 and the type "book" into 655.</p> <p>I don't think having a resource type "A1 - Book" is very helpful for people who don't know DEST category codes. Even if you do want the 'A1' in the resource type, I would suggest you have at the end of the field 'Book - A1' so all the books file together. Users just want to know it is a book, they don't care it is an A1 book. What is the problem with continuing to use 592?</p> <p>Any further info would be good.</p> <p>Fiona</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-38021">Comments and discussion / Comments</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-56967/herdc-the-metadata-issues">Herdc The Metadata Issues</a>
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						 <p>Sorry, how embarrassing - meant to say this is NOT a perfect example. It pays to read what you have typed before hitting the send button!</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-38021">Comments and discussion / Comments</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-66295/resource-type">Resource Type</a>
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						 <p>Hi All,</p> <p>Thought you might be interested to know that we have an 'online exhibition' in our repository:</p> <p><a href="http://hdl.handle.net/1959.3/22042">http://hdl.handle.net/1959.3/22042</a></p> <p>A lot of the metadata was 'guessed' (and put together very quickly!) so we're suggesting that this is a perfect example.</p> <p>As always, we welcome feedback from the community.</p> <p>Helen Wolff</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-38021">Comments and discussion / Comments</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-66295/resource-type">Resource Type</a>
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						 <p>This is a challenging one and generated a lot of discussion in the MACAR resource type meetings last year. One of the suggestions to use type : event for this kind of content eg exhibition, performance, conference, workshop etc (as in the DC type vocabulary ) was hotly debated and it was agreed that this was not suitable and type : multimedia was more appropriate for this type of resource. This decision was based on the fact that the resource being described was not predominately text, or image or audio or video but a combination of some or all of these types. If we are following whats currently on the MACAR site then you would look at the properties under multimedia and use these to describe this kind of resource. This however doesnt mean that we shouldnt revisit this and discuss if there is a case for a resource type such as event to cover these types of resources or something more granular such as exhibition, performance etc</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-38021">Comments and discussion / Comments</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-66295/resource-type">Resource Type</a>
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						 <p>Creative work seems far to broad and general to me. A book is a creative work, an image is a creative work. The term doesn't indicate a resource type, it is more descriptive. I'm having similar problems with Exhibition. Is this really a collection of different resource types linked together? A series of images, a pdf of explanatory material, a sound file.</p> <p>Do repository managers need to have a separate resource type for exhibitions?</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-38021">Comments and discussion / Comments</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-66295/resource-type">Resource Type</a>
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				<title>Exhibitions</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 04:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>KatieBlake</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>109483</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>What MARCXML fields do you suggest we use for exhibitions? Would you include 'creative work' there too?</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-38021">Comments and discussion / Comments</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-66295/resource-type">Resource Type</a>
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				<title>Forum categories: properties</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Julie McCulloch</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>114543</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>I see there are plans for a forum on properties. I would like to comment on identifiers, so the forum will be welcome.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-38277">Hidden / Comment vs discussion</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-54304/forum-categories:properties">Forum categories: properties</a>
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				<title>Re: Resource type list with each property?</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Joan Gray</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>113374</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Firstly thanks Katie and Ange for making this site available. It is a lot of work to do this. Regarding properties and resource types…<br /> Properties are linked to objects types (journal, book etc) here and this type of content model may be useful to the community for now. But we don’t want this to suggest that other data models are not supported. Other data models are currently being used for resource description eg eprint model. The Eprints Application profile (SWAP) is based on the eprint model and this is based on FRBR (Functional requirements for Bibliographic Records). MACAR properties can be mapped to an entity/relationship model such as this. Other mappings and crosswalks to APs and schemas can be provided in the future. And as for the resource type vocabulary… this was developed as a controlled vocabulary for use with the resource type as a property eg dc:type book much like the eprints type vocabulary encoding scheme (although this only applies to text-based resources) RDA (replacement for AACR), a library content standard is moving away from a format based approach to providing a data element vocabulary for most resources. Keeping properties separate from controlled vocabularies may provide more options in the future …. Just my thoughts for now</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-38348">Hidden / General discussion</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-53827/resource-type-list-with-each-property">Resource type list with each property?</a>
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				<title>Re: Granularity</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 05:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>KatieBlake</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>109483</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Another reason to split them out is that if you don't, and you have a need to do so later, you have to do it manually with a human being to read the text. Photograph numbers, local identification number.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-38021">Comments and discussion / Comments</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-54100/identifier">Identifier</a>
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				<title>Granularity</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 05:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>There are advantages in spliltting out the identifier to components such as ISSN or ISBN. this allows for more precise labelling in a display interface. Examples are ISBN, ISSN, Series number(s), DOI, handle, and others. Should we split them apart or leave them as repeatable elements under the one heading?</p> <p>You may only want to pass on one identifier to a harvester. Cannot specify which repeat a harvester might want to get. So you could identify them separately but cluster them together under a DC 'cluster' in the xsd.</p> <p>Any other dientifiers needed?</p> <p>Katie.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-38021">Comments and discussion / Comments</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-54100/identifier">Identifier</a>
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				<title>Change to page information...</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 04:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>NeilDickson</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>113350</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <h1><span>RUBRIC</span></h1> <p>Should the page information be changed since RUBRIC no longer exists, perhaps some else can take their place?</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-38021">Comments and discussion / Comments</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-53838/macar-terms-of-reference">Macar Terms Of Reference</a>
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				<title>Resource type list with each property?</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 03:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>KatieBlake</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>109483</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>At the moment I have structured the Wiki by resource type and by property. Under each property I have listed the resource types which might contain that property. For example, I've listed under <strong>conference location</strong> the two resource types of conference paper and conference item.</p> <p>Is this a useful thing to do? Could it be seen as too prescriptive? Should we say something about them being suggestions only?</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-38348">Hidden / General discussion</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-53827/resource-type-list-with-each-property">Resource type list with each property?</a>
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				<title>Book chapter</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 02:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Do we need a book chapter section?</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-38020">Hidden / Deleted threads</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-52556/book-chapter">Book chapter</a>
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				<title>Do we need page numbers for a born-digital book?</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>When a book is born digital it may be rendered in a variety of formats. Do we need a reference to the number of pages? Is it relevant? Is file size more important?</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/c-38278">Hidden / Book</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://macar.wikidot.com/forum/t-52543/book">Book</a>
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